November 7th, 2007
Independent Sales Chart 11-7-07
- PUSCIFER V IS FOR VAGINA
- MANNHEIM STEAMROLLER CHRISTMAS SONG
- PROJECT PAT WALKIN BANK ROLL
- HALLOWEEN HALLOWEEN
- YOAKAM*DWIGHT DWIGHT SINGS BUCK
- OTEP ASCENSION
- METALOCALYPSE: DETHKLOK DETHALBUM
- HAIRSPRAY SOUNDTRACK
- HELM*LEVON DIRT FARMER
- THURSDAY KILL THE HOUSE LIGHTS
1 PUSCIFER V IS FOR VAGINA
This Week: 26600
Total: 26,700
2 MANNHEIM STEAMROLLER CHRISTMAS SONG
This Week: 22700
Total: 70,200
3 PROJECT PAT WALKIN BANK ROLL
This Week: 17300
Total: 17,500
4 HALLOWEEN HALLOWEEN
This Week: 16900
Total: 55,100
5 YOAKAM*DWIGHT DWIGHT SINGS BUCK
This Week: 11400
Total: 29,700
6 OTEP ASCENSION
This Week: 10300
Total: 10,400
7 METALOCALYPSE: DETHKLOK DETHALBUM
This Week: 9600
Total: 92,100
8 HAIRSPRAY SOUNDTRACK
This Week: 9500
Total: 688,600
9 HELM*LEVON DIRT FARMER
This Week: 8700
Total: 8,800
10 THURSDAY KILL THE HOUSE LIGHTS
This Week: 7700
Total: 7,800
11 SAVES THE DAY UNDER THE BOARDS
This Week: 6700
Total: 6,800
13 DASHBOARD CONFESSIONAL SHADE OF POISON TREES
This Week: 5600
Total: 89,600
14 TAKING BACK SUNDAY NOTES FROM THE PAST
This Week: 5600
Total: 5,600
20 THRICE ALCHEMY INDEX: V
This Week: 4400
Total: 40,600
22 BAND OF HORSES CEASE TO BEGIN
This Week: 3900
Total: 36,400
24 PEREZ*AMANDA HAND OF FATE
This Week: 3800
Total: 3,800
29 OAKENFOLD*PAUL GREATEST HITS & REMIXES
This Week: 3300
Total: 5,600
31 MOTION CITY SOUNDTRACK EVEN IF IT KILLS ME
This Week: 3100
Total: 67,500
34 DOWN DOWN III-OVER THE UNDER
This Week: 2800
Total: 58,300
38 AS I LAY DYING OCEAN BETWEEN US
This Week: 2700
Total: 105,900
41 COLOR FRED BEND TO BREAK
This Week: 2500
Total: 2,600
44 BEIRUT FLYING CLUB CUP
This Week: 2400
Total: 22,800
46 PACK BASED BOYS
This Week: 2300
Total: 2,300
48 WINANS*BEBE CHERCH
This Week: 2200
Total: 2,300
49 ALL TIME LOW SO WRONG, IT’S RIGHT
This Week: 2000
Total: 32,400
51 EARLE*STEVE WASHINGTON SQUARE SERENADE
This Week: 2000
Total: 27,300
61 ATKINS*NICOLE NEPTUNE CITY
This Week: 1900
Total: 1,900
64 BIG PRIME DA GENERAL PRIME TIME
This Week: 1800
Total: 1,800
65 NEW PORNOGRAPHERS CHALLENGERS
This Week: 1700
Total: 55,400
75 BUCK 65 SITUATION
This Week: 1500
Total: 1,500
82 BOBAFLEX TALES FROM DIRT TOWN
This Week: 1400
Total: 1,400
84 SILVERCHAIR YOUNG MODERN
This Week: 1400
Total: 46,600
89 RAMMSTEIN VOLKERBALL
This Week: 1400
Total: 16,600
91 BETWEEN THE BURIED & ME COLORS
This Week: 1300
Total: 27,800
94 HAGGARD*MERLE BLUEGRASS SESSIONS
This Week: 1300
Total: 9,900
102 FLIGHT OF THE CONCHORDS DISTANT FUTURE
This Week: 1200
Total: 48,800
109 DEVIL WEARS PRADA PLAGUES
This Week: 1200
Total: 31,800
112 PINBACK AUTUMN OF THE SERAPHS
This Week: 1200
Total: 25,600
119 EVERY TIME I DIE BIG DIRTY
This Week: 1100
Total: 32,600
124 OVER ASHES BEGIN AGAIN
This Week: 1100
Total: 1,400
126 SOCIAL DISTORTION GREATEST HITS
This Week: 1100
Total: 45,400
132 YOUTHFUL PRAISE EXALTED
This Week: 1100
Total: 1,300
143 EDMONDSON*BLEU LOST BOY
This Week: 1000
Total: 2,000
144 ICED EARTH FRAMING ARMAGEDDON:
This Week: 1000
Total: 21,800
150 AUTUMN OFFERING FEAR WILL CAST NO SHADOW
This Week: 1000
Total: 1,000
168 MINUS THE BEAR PLANET OF ICE
This Week: 900
Total: 33,200
179 LIZZY BORDEN APPOINTMENT WITH DEATH
This Week: 900
Total: 900
187 BLUES TRAVELER COVER YOURSELF
This Week: 900
Total: 900
195 SUNSET RUBDOWN RANDOM SPIRIT LOVER
This Week: 800
Total: 7,000
Thoughts on the indie charts - I was surprised to see Thursday sell more copies than Taking Back Sunday with their recent discography CDs. From what I gather, Thursday put a lot of time and effort into their release and the accompanying DVD is something worth checking out. I have a promo copy and really need to check it out. I read that the Taking Back Sunday release is pretty worthless with the inclusion of only 2 songs most people have not heard. Saves the Day had a good showing, but I expected them to have a stronger first week. The Color Fred sold quite a few more than I thought they would. Is this album good? I kind of liked Breaking Pangaea which I think was his older band. I am bummed to see that Minus the Bear’s “Planet of Ice” is slowly getting off the charts. I spoke to David at Suicide Squeeze and he said that their being on MTV for that week did very little to help sales and cited the recent upsurge in sales of Tegan and Sara through their MTV spots recently where they sold 50 percent more the week after.
Notable Major label releases - The Eagles sold 700,000 copies to take the top spot and their record was sold primarily at Walmart and nowhere else. I guess the white trash like their Eagles. Britney sold almost 300,000 copies to take #2. Avenged Sevenfold sold 93,000 to take the 4th spot. Backstreet Boys sold 80,000 copies to take the 7 spot. Armor for Sleep sold 9,000 copies.
Upcoming releases / Predictions - This week we have new releases by Operation Ivy (I thought it was last week, my bad), Jim Ward, Demon Hunter, Angels and Airwaves, Agnostic Front, Bright Eyes, Neko Case reissues, Sara Dougher, Evaporators, God Forbid, Little Big Town, Mad Sin, Nicotine, Plain White T’s, the 69 Eyes, the Subhumans, Valley Arena, and Zookeeper. It will be interesting to see what Little Big Town does as they have scanned over 1,000,000 copies of their last one. Wonder if they can do 150,000 copies. It will be interesting to see how the Neko Case re-issues will do as it is a lot to ask fans to buy 3 new reissues after many more than likely already own them. And what do you think the Plain White T’s re-issue will do? Sure the band is huge, but most of their fans were fueled by radio play of “Delilah” and this Fearless re-release will likely not show up on their radar. What do you all think?
Written by Virgil Dickerson






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On November 7th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
aaron said:
I have to say I’m not too surprised by the ineffectiveness of the MTV push for Minus The Bear. I really think at the end of the day their sound is just a little too mature and forward thinking for your typical MTV viewer to latch on to. I wonder how much of a difference Aesop Rock saw as well from his MTV promotion?
On November 7th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
Tim.Towner said:
Wow…Armor For Sleep’s first major label album bombed! I recently wrote a review of the album on my site and gave it 4/10. The lyrics of that album are amazingly atrocious.
Why do these bands keep going to majors, when their bigger indie counterparts have mostly failed, to return to the indies?
If you go to a major label, you have to write a commercial album. Not the same thing over and over. If you’re on a major, you have to make them money. Simple as that. Selling 9,000 your first week isn’t the way.
On November 7th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
Tom said:
can someone hook up far-less’ numbers again?
On November 7th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Scott said:
AFS sold more first-week on Equal Vision for the last record (they did at least 10k, and I think it was actually like 12-14k). Talk about a flop.
On November 7th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
Tim said:
Wow! Big Shouts to Big Prime Da General!!
1800 units is great for a indie Hip Hop artist.
Great job!! Keep Grinding!!
On November 7th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
jason said:
Sigur Ros also has a double EP coming out this week.
On November 8th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Chris G said:
I don’t really think that 9000 is a flop. It would have put them in the #9 spot on the indie chart.
I would have liked to see Saves the Day do better, but 6700 is solid.
I think that the OpIvy disc go really go two ways. I think it will sell rather large copies or it won’t sell at all. If there had been more advertising I would feel more certain that it would do well.
Did anyone notice Blues Traveler at the bottom of the chart? Didn’t they used to sell like millions of records? Could someone give me some perspective on that?
On November 9th, 2007 at 7:30 am
Tim.Towner said:
Tom….My charts don’t have Far-Less on the sales list. You had to sell at least 545 albums to make the list. I’m assuming they sold less than that. Maybe Virgil has their numbers.
Chris…You have to consider they are on a major label. For the label to even break-even, Armor has to sell around 250,000 copies. To start with 9,000 - 10,000 is a big letdown.
I definitely see them looking for a new home, soon. Especially with all the promo that the label put into the album.
On November 9th, 2007 at 9:28 am
Will said:
Man, the PUSCIFER album is god awful.
I expected more from Saves The Day although the album is pretty strong.
Armor For Sleep have always been rather bland and lacking in hooks. I was surprised to see them even attempt to make the jump up to the majors.
On November 9th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
... said:
Anyone have Spoon’s numbers? Please and thank you.
On November 9th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
vanilaise said:
Saves the day last album sold 17,000 just a year and a half ago, album sales are dreadfully low, is there any way to tell how many times an album has been downloaded on itunes?
On November 9th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Matt said:
Dropkick Murphys really fell completely off the chart this week, or did it just get missed? I can’t imagine they sold less than 1k…
On November 10th, 2007 at 12:51 am
... said:
Dropkick Murphys are at #18.
On November 10th, 2007 at 2:34 am
Adam Duncan said:
Dropkick Murphys sold 4,600 this week for a total of 72,000 copies. They are also at No.174 on the Billboard 200. With 7 weeks on the Top 200, it’s easily their best charting album to date.
On November 12th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Brian said:
Hi Virgil.
Could you please post numbers for the new Monster Magnet, Exodus, and Nightwish.
Thanks!
On November 13th, 2007 at 1:16 am
Howdy Doody said:
Chris G-
For a major label record, getting decent press and push, 9000 is a total disappointment. I think AgainstMe’s numbers were tragically low, too.
The OpIvy re-issue is a catalog item. I’m sure no one over at the big E was expecting some giant first week. It was out of print and hard to find, and is an album kids look for when they’re “getting into punk.”
Thursday vs TBS- Thursday was very involved with this release and are using it essentially to try to relaunch themselves in the underground. Was TBS even INVOLVED in this or was this another Victory using material they had the rights to, trying to capitalize off of their current success?
On November 13th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Walt said:
How Drop kick sells that many is amazing
and AFS has horrible numbers ..i was thing at least 15k
wow what a bomb
On November 29th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
jake said:
up date your damn charts so we can enjoy!!!!!!!